Is prayer the same as prayerfulness? …. The same as mindfulness?

Bart Simpson, the 10 year old son of Marge and Homer Simpson is saying his prayers.

Bart has had a difficult day trying to elude “Sideshow Bob” who has been attempting to kill Bart for as long as the Simpsons has been on TV. Marge and Homer listen outside his bedroom door …

Bart: God bless Mom, God bless Homer, God bless Lisa and God bless Maggie ……. And please kill Sideshow Bob!
Marge and Homer make an urgent entrance.
Marge (horrified): Bart! You can’t ask God to kill people!
Homer: No — you gotta do your own dirty work!

Fiction? Well maybe not entirely. Don’t we sometimes present God with a shopping list, and call it “prayer”, basically asking God to make sure things happen the way we want them to? It might be recovery from illness, success in a job interview,  or just good weather for our day out, but we have already decided what God is supposed to do.

Recently I attended a discussion group of Baptist Ministers where our Regional Minister, Phil Jump, lead us in re-thinking prayer. This post is largely based on that discussion and a paper from Phil entitled: “Prayerfulness”.

Prayer is different to Magic

Magic is a way of manipulating the supernatural for our own purposes, whereas prayer is a way of subjecting ourselves to the will of a supernatural God. There are magicians in the Bible eg Simon the Sorcerer (Acts 8:9–24) who attempts to purchase the Holy Spirit to include in his show. Of course we wouldn’t do that but maybe sometimes our prayers, especially our church prayer meetings, are more about asking God to get on board with whatever we have already decided, rather than listening for what God might be doing and us getting on board with that. Of course the church prayer meeting is well-intentioned; we need more people to attend, and God values our coming to him “as a child”…

But perhaps prayer by itself it is not enough.

 Much of our prayer meeting seems to be a repetitive process of reciting in a heavenward direction a catalogue of predictable requests.

Instead of using prayer to launch a barrage of well-intentioned words and expectations, might it be more beneficial to spend time trying to listen to God?

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Images from the Simpsons’ church have no real relevance … but they are really funny!

Prayerfulness is different to Prayer

Listening for God implies there is a dialogue. We see this dialogue in scripture, eg Abraham, Moses, the prophets, Peter and Paul all experienced God conversationally, not just when they “closed their eyes to pray”. We are not Moses or Paul, but God can still speak with us.

If you like, prayer is something we do but prayerfulness is something we aspire to be. Prayer is specific, it is about doing, but prayerfulness is about being. In becoming prayerful we look for God, we listen for God, and we talk to God in our everyday activities, as well as in deliberate moments of stillness through the day.

 Might it be better, rather than imploring our churches to “pray more”, we encourage them to be “more prayerful”?

Seeing God in the moment, listening, dialogue-ing, are all ways of becoming prayerful. Prayerfulness isn’t easy on our own and even harder when get together. The temptation is to separate off prayer from stuff we really need to do – for example in in our church meeting, prayer can simply become the bookends — the meat is in between.

Mindfulness is different to Prayerfulness

You will have come across “mindfulness” which has become popular in recent years to the extent that mindfulness is now taught in some schools as a way of reducing stress.  Mindfulness is also about “being” … being in the here and now, having an intensified awareness of ourselves and our surroundings, emptying our minds of distraction and contemplating the moment. The word “mindfulness” has its origins in Buddhism but the practice is ancient and extends across many world religions including Christianity. There is a lot here that is good – we do need to find stillness in a world where it is increasingly difficult. But prayerfulness goes further. It’s not just about me or even my world. Prayerfulness always leads to a Godly dialogue where we express gratitude, or worship, or listen for God’s voice, or, (…sometimes!) make those requests.

 Being a contemplative Christian has its roots in ancient Christianity – long before anyone thought of words like “mindfulness”.

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Cultivating prayerfulness

Talk to God – and listen to him. It’s easier the more you do it.

Release time from unused corners of your day. Driving to work, doing housework, or performing exercise may be good times for you to dialogue with God. That’s a great start but being prayerful is also about turning your face toward God’s at any moment in the day. Just look up at the sky sometime — words will come.

And beware of pitfalls. Sometimes we don’t have the conversation with God, we have it with ourselves.  The phrase “the Lord told me this ….” may be just me saying “I really want this to be true!”. And remember God may give us difficult messages that are hard to bear. It’s not the case that whenever God speaks it will always be welcoming and reassuring. It could be “no”, or it could be intensely disturbing. In any event if God tells you something specific, he will confirm it in other ways and using other people.

Someone at the discussion group said “prayer is connecting with God’s purposes”, one of those profound statements that doesn’t explain anything to me, but I think its always best to nod wisely. In Homer Simpson’s world I think prayer would be a slot machine that Homer wanders up to now and then to pop loose change in and see if something good happens. But surely prayer — and prayerfulness — is a relationship, an ongoing relationship?

The Simpsons church 4

And if, like me, you sometimes struggle to slow down try Resisting the Need for Speed.
This post was also published by The Baptist Times


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MB Foster
MB Foster
7 months ago

I googled ‘Mindfulness vs Prayerfulness’ and ended up here.
I’m glad I did.
Thanks to the author and those who made this available online — and who kept it available for years afterwards!


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Paul Hobson
Paul Hobson
5 years ago

Great piece, Chris, thank you for sharing!

5 years ago

Thanks Chris — all food for thought. I’ve just been away on retreat at Ffald y Brenin where the emphasis is on the need for, and practice of, a “daily rhythm of prayer” — we — I — really need to get into the habit of regularly spending more time in prayerfulness, as you write — not just with domesticating list of requests, but taking time to talk, discuss, commune, sit in silence, listen — and as in Psalm 5, look up, expectant for God’s response. I think one problem is with the word “prayer” — it’s from Latin/Old French… Read more »

5 years ago

Another belta mate! Not sure I fully understand it though but food for thought! Thanks

Angela R
Angela R
5 years ago

This is so refreshing, Chris. (Thankyou Phil Jump!) I have 3rd order Franciscan friends whose prayer lives I have always admired. They are prayerful, godly people. I have grown up with the idea of ‘sanctified thinking’ from early days as a Christian. It’s the same principle I think — attempting to use positively those times doing ‘mindless’ jobs like gardening and ironing (!) as well as inspiring times out walking for example.

Sunil Raheja
5 years ago

Great insights Chris (and yes the cartoons are very funny!). It seems to me that particularly in the Protestant tradition we have tended to reduce prayer to a series of shopping lists. There is something mysterious about how prayer (or as you helpfully say prayerfulness) is a two way way process by which God shapes and moulds us to be more aligned with Him and His will. I like your use of the phrase prayerfulness as it indicates a way of being so that my whole day can begin to be attuned to the presence of God.